- Our next dilemma is for Roger Severino and Steve Bullock.

And this one involves a twist.

The two of you are not just prominent Middlevanias, you're also brothers.

(attendees laughing) - That's a wild family.

(attendees laughing) - It's complicated.

- It's complicated.

- Adopted.

- I am pro-adoption.

- Pro-adoption, okay, consensus.

- Yes.

- So you're brothers, and your dad, Bert, has invited you over for brunch.

And the three of you are sitting down when Bert lets out a sigh, and says, "I'm sorry, I've got bad news.

The cancer is back, and it's spread.

I've got less than six months to live.

But at the end, when I'm scared, I want to be able to control how I go out on my own terms."

Roger, Steve, talk to each other about this awful news.

- Well, dad has been there for us through thick and thin.

I mean, he changed our diapers.

And I know he's suffering terribly.

But I hope if I face the same thing, you'd recognize that every life is valuable up until the last moment and our last breath.

- There's part of me that wants Dad to fight like hell.

But do we really want the last six months of dad's life of just being emaciated and ill, or can he have those freedoms?

- Just to be clear, Fredonia has what's called a Death with Dignity Act.

Middlevania doesn't.

Under that law, I can go and meet with a doctor in Fredonia, show them I'm of sound mind, wait a week, come back, and they will prescribe me drugs, that if I feel I have to, I can take them at the very end to go out on my own terms.

What do you think, Roger?

- Most people who choose assisted suicide, it's not because they have extreme pain, it's because they think they're gonna be a burden to others and they lose autonomy.

And we're gonna be there every step so that when that moment comes, we'll be holding your hand.

- Your dad says, "Here's what I'm asking, Roger.

Here's what I'm asking, Steve.

I have an appointment in Fredonia in two days to see a doctor to talk about this option.

I can't make it there myself, I'm too weak.

I need your help.

I'm asking, will you please drive me, help me get there?

Is that something you can do?"

- I would, Dad, think as much as you can about the consequences and the alternatives.

There are so many issues involved.

There's the law, what's legal, what isn't.

Once you cross that line, there's no turning back.

- Son, you know, I've always admired your conviction.

I know we see this differently.

Would you drive with me?

- I love you, and because I love you, I cannot.

- Steve, would you drive with me?

- Cool, we're gonna grab a six pack and we're going.

(attendees laughing) No, but yes, yes, I would.

And like, look, at the end of the day, even though my brother and I see things differently, I guess I would want to have a conversation with my brother to say that Dad expects or deserves better from us, and we should actually both go with him.

- Let's be clear what we're talking about, he's talking about destroying himself.

We should be very clear.

There is no turning back, and that's gonna be on us.

- And that's what I would say to Dad even before, I'm not like, "Hey, Dad, go do this."

- To be clear, assisted suicide is a crime in just about every jurisdiction in America today, because the American people stand for life.

- Would you make it a crime for a person like Steve to take his terminally sick father, less than six months with cancer, to drive across state lines for medical aid in dying?

- Well, I cannot simply say I'm doing this just for my dad.

I have to think about the people of Middlevania.

We have laws in our state that protect against elder abuse.

We have laws in this state that protect against people taking advantage of somebody who's older and say, "Put me in your will."

That same dynamic occurs with assisted suicide.

Your interest may be pure, in your head, you're acting morally.

Others could have far more nefarious motives.

And we have to account, when we're passing laws, we have to account for the bad actors, not just for the pure of heart.

- And let's be clear, like, I hope Dad doesn't do it, and I want Dad to fight like hell to the minute he dies.

But I think that those states that actually have assisted suicide laws go through a lot of checks where it's not coercion.

And I want Dad to have that respect in his last six months.