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♪ ♪ ♪ Amanda> Well, good evening and welcome to Making It Grow .

We sure are happy you can be with us tonight.

I am Amanda McNulty and I'm a Clemson Extension Agent in horticulture, which was just so much fun to study.

And, but now they're changing all the names on us.

And Terasa Lott is my co-host and friend who's also a Clemson person.

And they just keep changing these names.

And Terasa, my favorite thing in the world used to be to say "Polypodium polypoidiodes," which was resurrection fern and they changed the dang thing.

Terasa> I thought your favorite was the Metaseqoia glyptostroboides.

Amanda> That's a favorite one too.

But they changed Polypodies polypoidiodes.

And, you know, I mean... isn't that just the most lyrical thing?

Terasa> I think Latin names are lyrical, and I know our viewers probably sometimes find it difficult to remember them or say them.

But they have a, you know, a really good purpose.

And that is one name per individual species.

And so no matter where you go, everyone is speaking the same language, even if it's hard to say.

Amanda> Well, and when I was in the botanical garden in China, I was so excited because they had things in Chinese, but they also had the Latin names.

And I was like, "oh, my friend" you know.

<Yes> So that was kind of fun.

Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, thanks for being here.

Terasa> Always a pleasure.

Amanda> Brad Fowler, the Commercial Horticulture Agent, now Dillon, Georgetown, Horry, Marion, Williamsburg.

La, la, la, la, la.

You just drive around all the time don't you?

> Let's see if we can add a few more counties.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

And so, what are some of your favorite things that people are growing down there, that you like to talk to them about?

> Oh gosh.

Well strawberries are obviously one of the biggest things.

So I went through my first strawberry season this year.

And that was interesting.

Learned a lot.

And yeah, there's a, there's a lot to that.

Amanda> Did you have favorite ones that people were growing?

Did you taste them?

Brad> I have not.

I did taste a bunch of different ones, but I haven't gotten familiar enough with all the different, the varieties that people are growing, to really know.

I've got, I've picked up on a few, but.

Amanda> And I guess some are for shipping and some are for people to come and pick right in the field, probably.

Different, a little bit... Brad> There's a lot of U-pick operations in those, in the counties that I cover.

And it's really cool.

Actually my son went to one that's not far from where we live.

I think about three times.

Amanda> Is he, isn't he just... Brad> Nah, he's close to five, now.

Amanda> Oh, is he really.

Heavens.

Brad> He eats more in the field than, you know... Amanda> Yeah, I think, and they don't mind if you do that.

Brad> Nah, it's not that big a deal.

Amanda> That's part of fun.

Yeah, okay.

Well, thanks for being here.

Glen Payne, the Horticulture Agent down in Beaufort, which is a long, kind of, way away.

And, you were so kind, you brought some shrimp today up from down there because, you know, we think, you know, that's... part of agriculture.

Glen> Yes ma'am.

Amanda> Don't you think?

Yeah.

> Shrimp and fish are definitely part of agriculture.

Even though, we normally think of plants.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

So that's kind of fun isn't it?

Glen> It is.

I hope you enjoy the shrimp.

Amanda> I don't think you have to worry about that.

[laughter] That was mighty kind of you.

And then, Brandon Huber, you have a PhD in something or another and you're over at South Carolina State University in Research and Extension.

And, I think you brought some things, to show us that, what's coming in, in the fields over there.

> Yeah, sure did.

Some vegetables, tomatoes, peppers and such.

So we'll look at them.

Amanda> Okay.

You know, they always say when it gets hot, it's hard to get tomatoes to produce.

Is that, is that still the case?

Dr.

Huber> Yeah.

When, you get above 90 degrees the tomatoes, have trouble setting fruit.

So, what you're seeing on the plant now is fruit that have set prior to- Amanda> Wow, these hot temperatures.

Dr.

Huber> So, you're getting a lot of, flowers falling in the plant now that aren't producing.

But that's, that's why we typically plant determinate tomatoes around here.

Amanda> And tell people what determinate tomatoes- Dr.

Huber> Determinate tomatoes are, they're like bush tomatoes.

They fruit pretty much all in one- So they allow people to do like a one-time harvest or two-time harvest.

They fruit all at once, rather than indeterminate vine tomatoes which fruit a little at a time.

Amanda> Which is wonderful if- Dr.

Huber> It's great for a home gardener too.

Amanda> Yeah.

But with the weather changes and climate- Dr.

Huber> You just have a plant of leaves.

Amanda> So, how about cherry tomatoes?

Do they produce all the time?

Dr.

Huber> They seem to do much better in the heat.

So they'll keep on growing- Amanda> I love cherry tomatoes.

There's so many different kinds- Dr.

Huber> They do, they're great.

Amanda> They have great flavors.

Okay, well... Terasa, we usually have some "Gardens of the Week," don't we?

Terasa> We do, and today we have a special theme.

This is the "Pet Helper" theme is what I'm calling it.

[laughter] Inspired by photos that I took of, my dog that we affectionately refer to as "Crazy Daisy," who insists on digging bunkers in the landscape beds.

It would be nice if it was just one, but she likes to dig a new one.

I guess, you know, the old one wears out or it's not as cool as it used to be.

We had great response from you, our viewers.

So let's take a look at your pet helpers.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Who knew that there were so many dogs, cats and even goats that were helping their owners in the landscape and giving them a helping hand.

If you would like to see those photos again or the many other submissions, I encourage you to visit our Facebook page.

And when you see a call for "Gardens of the Week," maybe a special theme, post your photos there and they might just appear on air.

Amanda> Well, thank you so much.

Terasa> You're welcome.

Amanda> Furry, furry critters.

Terasa> Furry critters, yes.

Amanda> And also a little bit later, you're going to have fun watching some things, Terasa and I talk about spider plants.

And then, "Deep South Native Plants for the Home Garden" with Jane Jabbour.

And she wrote a book about it, which was a lot of fun for us.

So stay tuned for that and other things.

But also, I bet we can help some people with problems maybe, that they're having.

Terasa> Let's give it a try.

First up, we're going to help Gary in Conway, who reached out and said, "I've got holes in my tomatoes.

Can you tell me what's going on?"

And we've got a picture to go along with, with this one to kind of narrow things down.

Amanda> Yeah, a picture helps a lot diagnose- <Yes> So, Brad, what's going on?

Brad> So, when we're looking at this type of stuff, there's obviously a lot that can go on with tomatoes.

Amanda> Yeah, I'll say!

Brad> Brandon can jump in here too, a lot of different things can happen.

But this was a pretty clear hole.

There's not a whole lot of damage kind of around the hole.

It's a very defined hole in that tomato.

And so this is probably some sort of like tomato fruit worm that has... you know, bored its way inside of there and, has caused that damage.

And so, it's fairly common.

You know, we see that, a good bit.

Amanda> But that's not a tomato anybody's gonna get to eat now?

Brad> Probably not.

I mean, you know, maybe at the home you might cut off part of it or something like that, but, no, that one's probably done for.

Because it happens a lot of times when they're, when they're green.

And so they're not, you know, they're not, really not ready to be picked yet, unfortunately.

What I would encourage people to, when they're, you know, looking for pests and stuff in their tomatoes, you know, if you see, a caterpillar or something, a lot of times you can pick it off <Pinch it.> and maybe get rid of it in a way.

Amanda> I mean, there's some that you have to be careful with if they've got what look like hairs.

<Right> You might want to kind of beware.

<Exactly> Because some of those are irritating.

Brad> They can be, yeah.

Amanda> But otherwise, I mean, just squish that caterpillar.

Brad> Squish it off or, you can possibly use something like Bt.

If you're familiar with Bt.

It's a, it's an organic- <Naturally occurring.> Yes, naturally occurring... pesticide that can help with a lot of those caterpillars that we might experience in the, in the vegetable garden.

Amanda> And, it only affects things like that.

<Right, exactly.> It's really, really cool.

Brad> Yeah, it is, it's pretty neat.

Amanda> Okay.

Well, I hope the person got some tomatoes to eat as well, without that.

Okay.

Well, Terasa.

Terasa> Let's see what's up next.

We are going to venture to Sheldon where Mary had a question.

She said, "Please help me ID these small bugs.

They were in a perfectly round circle on my crepe myrtle.

When I touched them, they moved away almost like a flock of birds touching each other as they went."

And again, we've got a photo to go along with this.

Amanda> Goodness.

Well, Glen everybody just adores crepe myrtles, I think, there are more of those than any other tree, sadly, because it's not a native tree, and it doesn't do much good for anybody, except be pretty.

So what are these?

Glen> So I think with Mary, what she's seeing, this time of year, you get what's known as exfoliating bark on some of your crepe myrtles, as well as other trees.

Amanda> Which is lovely.

Glen> And it gives it a very unique feature.

It's got a cinnamon color a lot of times.

And what you'll notice is underneath of these exfoliating bark pieces that are falling off- Amanda> And that exfoliate- it kind of peels.

Glen> Right, it just peels off.

And, what Mary noticed was a clump of small insects that were under there, which are bark lice that get under there, and they're not harmful at all.

They're actually very beneficial.

<Are they?> They're there to eat things like, old bark, fungus, pollen, algae, lichens that grow on trees.

Amanda> So they're housekeepers.

Glen> And when you touch them, these little housekeepers all go in a group.

And so as a housekeeper, they actually have a crazy cousin that's known as book lice, which live indoors.

And you may have seen book lice as well.

<Tiny> But these are bark lice that she has.

And you may not want to treat them at all.

You may want to let them just do their job and be the beneficial insects that they are.

Amanda> Well, there's no reason at all to treat them.

I mean, I mean... just no reason at all.

Glen> No.

Amanda> I mean, okay.

Glen> They're nature's helpers.

Amanda> That's kind of fun.

I think that's delightful.

Oh, I'm so glad to learn about that.

Glen> So, Mary, keep your bark lice around and, just observe their behavior.

Amanda> And they're not the kind of, I mean, louse, lice has a bad connotation, but lots of things have common names.

And that's why we use scientific names, right?

Glen> That is correct.

Amanda> Alrighty.

Terasa> Ready for another one?

Amanda> I am.

Terasa> Alright.

This comes in from Dr.

Mac in Pelzer.

He would like to know, "Could you tell me how to save corn to plant next year?"

So I'm assuming he means sweet corn.

He says, "do I need to leave it on the stalk longer?"

So, He's wanting to save seed to use to plant next year.

Amanda> But he wants a really, a wonderful sweet corn.

Brandon.

> Well, the first thing I would say is, if you are saving your seed, you need to leave it on the plant longer.

He'll need to leave it on the plant longer until it actually turns brown.

We typically eat corn when it's fresh and juicy.

You got to leave it on there longer until it basically shrivels back up.

<Okay> But one warning is a lot of these hybrid seeds are they are F1.

So the next generation if you do save that seed it's going to be wild.

It's going to be all sorts of different things which can be fun.

If you want to experiment.

But you may not, you're not guaranteed to get that same variety again.

And that's where heirlooms come in handy.

Or something like an heirloom where it's... going to be consistent generation to generation.

But, I wouldn't recommend it if they're looking for top quality corn next year.

Unless they want to experiment.

Amanda> Is there an heirloom that's anything like, as good as new ones?

Dr.

Huber> Yeah, that's... probably, no.

They just don't have that, that quality.

And some of them, some of them are okay.

I mean, like, I grow popcorn and... heirloom popcorn and that, that one does just great.

Amanda> Yeah, but, you're not growing it for- Dr.

Huber> It's different.

Exactly.

Amanda> -Fresh eating.

Dr.

Huber> It's dry.

Yeah, a lot of those, some of those great hybrids we have now are just, you just kind of have to... Amanda> And it used to be we'd say you had to, you know, have the pot of water boiling and run out to the field and get back and pop it right then.

But I think now, the sweetness lasts for several days.

Dr.

Huber> Yeah.

There are really great, really great hybrids now.

They're really delicious.

But yeah, unfortunately, that's, that's what'll happen.

Amanda> And so we have a lot of things people talk about, Terasa like Silver Queen.

And, you know, and people will say they're serving that... but it's just because that's kind of a name that everyone associates with wonderful sweet corn.

And I think, now there are newer varieties and they're just kind of- People might say this is Silver- A farmer might say this is Silver Queen and they're not trying to mislead you.

They just want you to know it's what you associate with that good, sweet corn.

Dr.

Huber> There's a variety, that's real popular called Obsession, right now.

Obsession.

And, you know, there's a white and a bicolor and they look like, they look like Silver Queen.

One of them.

<Okay> Terasa> As a child growing up- Course, you know, I'm from Upstate New York, and we, that was my favorite was if it had the alternating kernels that were yellow and white.

We called it Butter and Sugar.

But I don't know if that was the specific variety or just kind of a colloquial term.

Amanda> That's a wonderful name for it.

<Mhm> Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Dr.

Huber> There's an old, there's an old corn I used to plant, an old heirloom called Country Gentleman.

It's called shoepeg corn.

And they're not straight rows.

They're in jagged rows.

Amanda> Cause Country Gentleman, for whatever reason- Dr.

Huber> It's like, from the 1800s, an old heirloom.

[laughter] Amanda> That's kind of cute.

Dr.

Huber> They're not the sweetness- Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

Just kind of a novelty.

Dr.

Huber> That's it.

Amanda> Yeah, okay.

Terasa> So Mac could give it a try but it's going to depend on what he planted this year.

And we might not know what, what's going to come up from the seed.

Amanda> Well, how about that?

Well, now we're going to talk Terasa, you and I are going to talk, in the past about spider plants.

Amanda> Terasa, you know, I don't do houseplants because my house isn't, acclimated for houseplants.

They wouldn't be happy.

Terasa> I understand.

Amanda> Yeah, but, but this is one that you got from from Eddie's mother.

Your husband's mother.

And, you've had great success propagating it.

Terasa> I really have.

It can't get any easier.

So this is a spider plant.

<Alright> Chlorophytum comosum is the scientific name.

Native to South Africa, coastal areas of South Africa.

But it makes a great houseplant because it, it appreciates temperatures no lower than 55 and no higher than 80.

So I know it wouldn't do well in your house.

Amanda> And indirect light- I guess since you don't have to put it outside or anything.

Terasa> Moderate indirect light, but in all honesty it will tolerate almost anything.

So if you're new to the world of houseplants, this would be a good, good one to start with.

Amanda> All right.

Okay.

Well let's see how we might get one.

You've got some that you had already propagated.

And this one's how old?

Terasa> You know, my mother-in-law passed away about two years ago.

So this was part of the original plant.

And then I've potted up all that you see over there, so various stages, so less than two years.

But other than that, I can't give you exact timeframe.

Amanda> So it's a pretty fast growing plant.

Terasa> It really is.

Amanda> Do you feed it a lot?

Terasa> I don't.

I do use just a fertilizer that you can mix in with- <Water> when I irrigate.

And in terms of water let the top dry out.

So you want that top inch to dry out in between watering.

Amanda> The digital method of testing.

Terasa> That's right.

You don't even need any fancy tools.

Amanda> Yeah, okay.

Terasa> It does make pretty little flowers.

They're not super showy.

<That's nice, yeah.> Star shaped flower.

<Yeah> So it gets the name from these little plantlets.

Kind of looks like spiders, kind of hanging from the plant.

<It does.> Look nice in a hanging basket, Amanda> They're graceful.

Terasa> They are graceful.

Amanda> They're graceful.

Terasa> It is so easy.

All you have to do is- Amanda> Now you've got just plain old potting soil.

Terasa> I do.

That's an indoor potting mix.

Amanda> Okay.

Fairly loose, yeah.

Terasa> I wanted to keep things a little neat, so I just put it in the pot already.

<Okay> Terasa> And I prefer pots that have drainage, but also have like a saucer attached at the bottom.

Amanda> I know, yeah.

It's just a lot easier.

Terasa> It's just easier, then I don't have to look for something.

Don't have to worry about the finish on wherever I put it.

So all I did was- Amanda> You just want to be sure that it's not going to be sitting in water, too long.

Terasa> Yes.

That's right.

That's right.

So I just snipped it and it's hard to see.

But the plant has already formed some very tiny little root structures.

And all we need to do is- Amanda> I mean, they just look like little bumps almost.

It's not like a root or anything you can really see.

Terasa> That's right.

If we let it grow up a little bit more on the plant, it would- Amanda> But you say, they don't care.

Terasa> They really don't.

So we're just going to put that in there, like that.

Amanda> Well this is relatively easy.

Terasa> That's right.

I don't do propagation except this, because, I mean, you really can't mess up.

So we could find another one if we wanted to.

That pot's I think, enough for two.

So we're just going to snip it.

Apparently my snippers are not very sharp.

And then, again the digital method here, no tools required.

Just put it down in there.

Cover it up a little bit, give it some security.

We'll give it a little bit of water and voila.

Amanda> You know, it's right cute looking like.

It might be fun if you were doing something, wanted something tiny just for a few days to fill it up, because they're just they're just kind of precious looking, don't you think?

Terasa> They really are cute.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

Terasa> I think you can see I've put two or three in the different, in the different pots.

So the one on the end is going to be the youngest.

And I would expect probably a few months, this one will be about the size of the one on the, on the end.

Amanda> This little fellow down here.

<Yeah> That's pretty fast growing.

Terasa> It really is.

Amanda> Yeah.

And just indirect light.

Terasa> Moderate indirect light.

Let it dry out in between waterings.

They are a little sensitive to fluoride.

So if water is fluoridated.

<Really> I suspect that's why I have a little bit of tip burn on some of the leaves.

Amanda> My goodness.

Terasa> So- Amanda> So, what if you have that?

Terasa> You could use rainwater if you catch it from outside or something like that.

Amanda> A jug of bottled water from the store if you needed to.

Terasa> I do use my tap water.

And you just have to be willing to deal with some imperfections.

Amanda> Yes.

Well, it makes up for it with ease.

And really, it's a lovely plant.

Well, thank you so much.

Terasa> You're welcome.

I think that if you'd like one, I could give it to you.

But I don't know if it would survive, especially, in the wintertime.

Amanda> Well, it's been pretty hot in the house, too.

Terasa> It has been.

Amanda> It's been real hot.

Anyway, but, you know, summer won't last forever, right?

Terasa> That's true.

But I love having... it feels like we have something to remember my mother-in-law by, and, then I can keep potting it up and giving it to others, if they'd like to try starting a new houseplant.

Amanda> Okay, that's very generous of you.

Thank you for the offer, but I'll wait for something different.

[laughs] Thanks, Terasa.

Terasa> You're welcome.

Amanda> Terasa, lots of offshoots for people who want to start one, right?

Terasa> That's right.

And the mother plant is still making more.

And, it actually itself is about to... it needs dividing too.

<Gosh> I guess it's a good problem to have.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

And what do you do with, I mean, it's kind of hard to throw something away.

I guess if you have a compost heap, you don't feel quite so bad about... Terasa> Yes, I maybe could justify that's it's going to put nutrients back in that I could utilize.

Amanda> I think that would be fair, don't you?

<Yeah> Well, so hats, hats, hats.

Thank goodness for Ann Nolte.

And, she has these glorious lilies that, are from Africa, I think.

And, Oh, aren't they just marvelous?

They're just beautiful, beautiful.

And they're kind of viney a little bit.

But the stem is really, really strong.

I left some of it on it so you could see how tough the stem is.

And, in certain places in the United States, they're considered a pest.

But, fortunately here it's just, I think something pretty that you can, bring and put in your hair.

Aren't they just the prettiest thing you've ever seen?

Terasa> They really are.

Amanda> Oh, la, la.

Anyway.

Terasa> Such a neat, texture, I guess to... Amanda> Yeah, don't you think?

Yeah, yeah.

And you know, you know... in the dead of summer, which we're heading into, to have something so colorful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway.

Well... shall we see who we can help?

Terasa> We... Amanda> Whom we could help.

[laughter] Terasa> We shall... Let's see if we can help Randy in Georgetown.

He has got a question about pine trees.

He says, "I've noticed my pine tree is not looking good.

There are some holes in it.

Can you tell me what's happening?"

Amanda> Oh, I just love my pine trees.

I really do, anyway.

But sometimes they have problems.

What's going on with this one?

Brad> Yeah.

So it might be a little bit hard to say without actually seeing it.

And I'll be up front and say that, you know, pines aren't my expertise.

But, there are some, beetles and some boring, insects that can bore their way into those pine trees.

And it's, it's somewhat common.

And a lot of the stuff is native insects.

It's not, something invasive.

But they can cause damage.

And so it's important to be on the lookout for this type of stuff.

And if you're starting to see, like, sawdust material at the base of that tree, you're seeing those holes, that sort of thing that may indicate that you have, some sort of boring insect.

And unfortunately, a lot of times it can kill the tree.

And so the biggest thing is we just have to be aware that that is a possibility.

<Alright> And if it does happen, you know... you don't want somebody to be endangered by that tree.

A limb falling out or the tree falling on the house or something like that.

So it's just something to be aware of and take notice.

Maybe call a certified arborist if you have real questions about it.

Amanda> If it's real important to you.

Brad> Exactly.

We also have forestry agents that deal a lot with, a lot of those, like even though it might not be in a forest, those more forest type trees as well, that you can reach out to.

Amanda> I have a big yard and there's some pines that aren't going to- If they fall, they can fall all they want to.

<Right> And so we had a dead one and we had some woodpeckers that used to I mean, they were so happy using that.

So I mean, so there are reasons to leave things if you can safely, perhaps.

Brad> Exactly.

Yeah, that's the thing.

If you can leave it, if you got plenty of property, you wanna leave it and it's safe, not going to fall on anybody, then by all means, you know, it can be a habitat.

But otherwise, might have to be taken down depending on what the problem is.

Amanda> And I think woodpeckers have, pretty solid heads.

[laughter] Not much room left inside for brains.

But anyway, they are fun.

Rat-a-tat-tat.

Okay, alrighty.

Terasa.

Terasa> This comes in from Linda in Eutawville.

Linda would like to know what is wrong with her pineapple guava.

She sent us a photo and... talked about how the leaves have brown circles and yellow edges.

Amanda> Glen, you know, we can eat pineapple guava, so it's kind of a fun thing to have.

But, if the trees, I mean, if the plant's not healthy.

I don't know if we're going to get any fruits.

Glen> Yes, ma'am.

This is a very unique, interesting plant with a pineapple guava.

You can even make, jam or jelly out of the fruit, once it fruits later in the summer.

And it's got an interesting, real attractive red flower to it that hummingbirds just love.

But with Linda's plant, it appears from looking at it, if you look closely at these leaves, there's a, brown inclusion in the leaf with kind of a yellow halo.

<Okay> So, it looks to me like it's got the, "Cercus-spora" fungus that's in it.

Is that the correct pronunciation?

Terasa> I say Cercospora, but, who knows?

Glen> And you can go, that way as well.

Amanda> John Nelson tells us, as long as you spell it right, he's happy for you to pronounce Latin names anyway you want to.

Glen> So with the Latin name, there we go, we've got it.

We're all on the same page.

And treatment-wise, she's probably having to look at doing some housekeeping.

You're going to want to pick up and get those old leaves.

That can have some, spores on it.

And so when you're running the irrigation or it's raining, high humidity this time of year, it's getting on the leaves and it's infecting those.

Probably not going to be terminal to the plant.

You're not going to lose it.

But you may want to do like a copper sulfate treatment just to interrupt that fungal pathogen life cycle on it.

And do your housekeeping.

And maybe do some pruning, get the dead wood out of it that's infected to increase the air circulation.

Amanda> They can get pretty big.

I mean, they can get real big can't they, for a shrub?

Glen> Yes, and a big one with Linda's, make sure that you're cleaning your pruners in between the use- Amanda> Oh, take some alcohol- Glen> -Move plant to plant.

Right.

Like maybe, two teaspoons to a gallon of water with a alcohol solution.

Amanda> That'd be enough?

Glen> Yes, ma'am.

Amanda> Really?

Glen> That would be.

Amanda> Okay.

Some people say Clorox.

I'm thinking, you know, I've got enough things I ruin with Clorox.

Not even carrying it outside and using it.

Glen> Just don't wear your good clothes out- [laughter] Amanda> Well, thank you.

And I hope that this person will have success, because that's a fun thing to have in your yard.

And I didn't realize about hummingbirds.

<Yes> Terasa> Cercospora is very common on hydrangea and almost inevitable.

So we tell people about practicing- But luckily, not like you said, terminal.

It looks bad.

And there are some things you can do to minimize it, but I have yet to have it not show up in a season.

Amanda> You know, it's so funny, when I go see the children, they plant roses on the side of the highway out there in Los Angeles because they don't, you know, it doesn't rain.

They don't have the humidity, which is just kind of, you know, I think I'd rather have some fungal infections and have some rain every, every now and then.

How about that?

Yeah.

Dr.

Huber> Have you ever eaten the petals of the pineapple guava?

<No> They're quite good.

They have like a rose, like a rosy kind of flavor to them.

Yeah.

<Okay> Yeah, worth trying.

Terasa> Next time you come, you'll have to bring one for us.

<Sure> Amanda> Yeah, that'd be fun.

Alrighty.

Let's see what we can do.

Terasa> This one is, myth busting.

Michelle in Cordova said, "Is it true the number of bumps on the bottom of a pepper affect the taste?

I've seen this on social media, but I'm skeptical."

Good for Michelle for being skeptical.

Amanda> I think I'd be very skeptical about a lot of stuff on social media.

A lot of stuff on social media.

Dr.

Huber> Yeah.

So we refer to the bumps on it are actually called the lobes.

Amanda> I mean, you, on the bottom part.

Dr.

Huber> Yeah.

I actually brought some with me.

<Okay> We have, we have two peppers here is a three-lobe pepper.

<Yes> With the three bumps on it.

And then the four-lobe.

Which people tend to like the four-lobe.

They're blockier they're just a bigger pepper.

And they're formed, that's solely genetic, typically.

But you'll have plants that have threes and fours on the same plant.

Doesn't alter the flavor at all or the sweetness.

I've even heard people say one's a male, one's a female.

Well, this is a fruit, so it's a... ovary.

Amanda> It's a fruit.

Yeah, yeah.

Dr.

Huber> Yeah, it doesn't alter it at all.

But just, it's just a natural, like segregation that happens on a plant.

And you'll have threes and fours on the same plant.

It just, the flower, it's predetermined when the flower opens.

You can actually count the carpels on a flower bud.

And it'll have three for a three-lobe and four for four-lobe.

Amanda> I would like a four-lobe one if I'm going to make stuffed peppers.

<Yeah> Don't you think Terasa?

Terasa> Yes.

If you're going to make them the way that I do because they just stand up on their own that way.

But if you use three-lobe, you can just cut them in half, like, lengthwise and lay them on their side.

Amanda> I don't know if people do that much, but I like stuffed peppers.

Do you?

Terasa> I do.

But we made an unstuffed pepper casserole the other night, so it's basically just without putting it in- So still using peppers- Amanda> What'd you do?

Terasa> Just chop up the vegetables and still use some, we used ground turkey, but you can use ground beef or your favorite protein source and rice.

So it's the same as I would fill the pepper, but I put in a little extra peppers and don't put them in, just to save some time.

Amanda> Okay.

Goodness.

Dr.

Huber> And I would add, this is, we do... we do a bit of pepper research at the university in the high tunnels and open field.

And this is a variety called Aristotle.

It's a really good bell pepper for South Carolina.

It has lots of resistance to some of the viruses and some of the bacterial spots that affect our peppers.

So when you look for a pepper variety to grow in South Carolina, Aristotle is great.

It does turn red if you leave it long.

And Boca is another one that we really like.

And it makes a really nice big pepper.

Amanda> And when they turn red they are sweeter to me.

But, so maybe the green one has more, you just want a fresh taste.

And then if you want kind of a more, you know, mellow taste, perhaps... Dr.

Huber> Yeah- Amanda> What you pulling out?

Dr.

Huber> We have a new, cool purple one.

<Oh> This is a newer variety we were trying this year.

This one's called Tequila.

<Okay, Tequila.> We're just trying to see, it's... one of the newer varieties, and we just want to see how it performs.

It's a little smaller, but- Amanda> And it's fun, people talk about heirlooms and all, but as you say, with the disease pressures, some of the new things that have been developed with resistance to that, you'll get a lot more production.

Dr.

Huber> Absolutely.

You know, and you'll get away with it, you'll get away with it if you're in like the Northeast.

Like, you know, a lot of times you go to the box store and you see California Wonder bell peppers being sold.

You won't see these varieties in the store, in the box store.

But these are the varieties you really should grow.

And so people fail at them because they have their own variety.

And it can be night and day just picking the right variety it's bred for this region.

Amanda> And Terasa, I know some of the factsheets we have at Clemson have suggested varieties.

I'm not sure how frequently they're updated.

You can see on it when it was last updated.

Terasa> That's right.

Amanda> But they will tell you things that have... been selected for being, good things to grow here.

Dr.

Huber> And the Southeast Vegetable Handbook, which is available, it's a big document, PDF, online.

Check it out.

It lists all those varieties on there.

It's a free resource.

Amanda> Southeast Vegetable- Dr.

Huber> Vegetable Handbook.

It's multi-university collaboration, document.

And you go to the pepper section and it'll say you'll see Aristotle in there.

And it'll say South Carolina, and there'll be a check.

In that South Carolina column.

Amanda> Thanks for telling me that.

Dr.

Huber> Yeah, great resource.

Fertility guides, fungicide guide, insecticide, all of it.

It's right there.

<Wow> Terasa> I think that really speaks to the planning aspect of gardening, you know.

We can probably be more successful if we put in some time ahead of things, you know, even from- I think we recently talked about rotation and how important that is.

<Yeah> So, how many beds do you have?

What things do you want to plant?

Where can we locate them and what varieties.

Amanda> And you were talking about the fact that, you know, things that people wouldn't necessarily think are the same family that you're supposed to rotate sometimes, are.

Terasa> Yeah.

Tomatoes, peppers, eggplant.

So, we grow a lot of solanaceous plants, so I find myself having trouble figuring out... <Where, yeah-> I don't have any more open beds that haven't had that same family.

Amanda> And, jalapeno.

Dr.

Huber> That's a jalapeno.

That's a variety called Jedi.

Another recommended great variety for South Carolina.

So, the hot ones tend to be a little more forgiving I've noticed in our region.

But bell peppers can be a little finicky to grow here if you have the wrong variety.

Amanda> Well, like we said, you know, tomatoes don't like it when it gets too hot.

Dr.

Huber> Above 90, you have poor pollination- Terasa> That makes me curious Brandon, you should do some research on the capsaicin content and how that might be related to unfavorable disease conditions.

Dr.

Huber> That'd actually be really interesting.

Will see what we can do.

Amanda> Put that on your list.

Mr.

Researcher.

Yeah, okay.

Well... Let's see where we are now.

Terasa, I guess we could try to help somebody else.

Terasa> Try to answer another question.

All right, let's see if we can help Liz from Myrtle Beach.

She says she has "mushrooms popping up in her yard, and some patches seem to be dying out."

And she wants to know, "Are the mushrooms killing the grass?"

Amanda> Goodness gracious.

Brad, I don't think of mushrooms killing grass, but you tell me what you think.

Brad> Right.

It's kind of one of those, like, yes and no answers.

The mushrooms themselves are not killing the grass, but mushroom, is a fungus.

And so, it could possibly be indicating that there are some other fungal issues occurring in that grass.

Amanda> Because it's conducive to fungi living?

Brad> To fungi living, exactly.

The right environment is there for that fungi to live.

Now, the ones that we're talking about that are, that might be hurting the grass or something like take-all root rot, large patch or brown patch, dollar spot.

It's kind of funny... fungal problems are, a lot of times easy to identify.

At least that it's a fungus because it forms like a circular pattern a lot of times.

Even the mushrooms will grow in kind of semicircles or circles.

And so it's, it's pretty neat how that works.

But, yeah, especially once we get into this time of year, coming out of spring, temperatures start to warm up a little bit.

This spring was a little bit weird because we didn't get a whole lot of rain, and so we didn't see the fungal problems in the spring we're seeing them now.

Amanda> Then we got all those rains.

Brad> Exactly.

We started getting some moisture.

And so we're starting to see the fungal problems that are popping up in the lawn, now.

And so, you know, I don't always tell people like, go throw out a bunch of chemicals and stuff on your lawn.

You know, you really want to treat things as needed.

But fungicides are the one thing, if you're really wanting to grow kind of a high end lawn, that you probably want to stay ahead of.

Because fungicides work best preventatively.

<Ah-ha> They can kind of stop it.

The fungal problem, if it's occurring- Amanda> It's like getting your vaccination.

Brad> It doesn't cure it, you know.

You're worried about- Amanda> You don't want to get sick.

Brad> Yeah, exactly.

Amanda> It's hard to treat you once you get sick.

Brad> So you might want to think about a fungicide application kind of in the spring and then in the fall as well to kind of help prevent some of those problems.

Amanda> Are they pretty safe for the applicator to put out?

Brad> Most of the time.

Once again though, you just want to read the label and follow all the label instructions.

I mean, you're going to have your standard PPE with the long sleeves and longpants and stuff like that.

But thankfully we're targeting something specific.

We're targeting that fungal pest in the landscape.

Amanda> It was so much fun Terasa... right out in the side yard where I walk in and out, I had mushrooms popping up.

And it was just so much fun, you know, first they were, you know, the little cap was very tight.

And then the next day the cap was a little bit wider, and then the cap was really, really wide.

And it was just fun to see the progression of them.

I really enjoyed it.

Brad> As a note too, don't go out and just pick mushrooms out of the yard and eat them or anything like that- <No!> Make sure you're ID-ing any kind of mushroom.

Cause a lot of these things can be dangerous.

Amanda> I'm a real grazer, but I do not do mushrooms.

Terasa> That's sound advice.

They're a whole different group of organisms.

So, people ask us questions a lot, but they're not plants, right?

Fungi is its whole, is its whole own group.

But I wanted to throw out that if folks need something identified in their turf, we can send a turf sample in.

The process is a little bit different in terms of there's specifics on how much you need to collect.

But you can call the local extension office, or there are instructions on the Ag Service Lab website or PPDC is the Plant Pest Diagnostic Clinic.

Amanda> When I was at Clemson, I was talking to a mycologist, once you know, really knows... fungi.

And she said she never has eaten a mushroom unless she does a spore test.

You know, to be- She said and you know, she's the expert, kind of, you know, she said... Dr.

Huber> ...I raise them on logs, you know, shiitakes- <Sure> Yeah and blue oysters.

And I'm like, are we sure that that's an actual- Blue oysters are pretty obvious but shiitakes, is like, are we... do we know that's did it actually colonize in there or... something else.

Glen> And Brandon, if you're not sure, you can always do the fungi ID at Clemson at the Plant Pest and Diagnostic Clinic.

They have a mycologist on staff.

And there's actually directions if you go to the web page on how to submit those samples, and they can ID those if you're, not sure about that.

Dr.

Huber> That's great to know.

Amanda> Well, thank you.

Okay.

That's great.

Alrighty.

Well... Questions, questions, problems, problems.

Terasa> This one does happen to be a problem.

Annie in Manning said, "What's wrong with my dogwood?

The new leaves are curly, the old leaves are brown."

Amanda> Poor old dogwoods.

Yeah, well.

Glen> Well, I'm glad that we do have the dogwood tree around.

And I'm sorry to see the condition that this one is gone into.

Amanda> So, so, so, so many are declining.

Glen> And there's several things going on.

Usually have something primary that goes on in the environment.

And looking at the leaves on this dogwood, looks like it's suffering from anthracnose, which is a non-native fungal disease.

It can be terminal, for the dogwood tree.

You'll notice it's on the bottom of the leaf where it's turned sort of a grayish brown.

And then it's also going up to the petiole and then getting on the stem and the twig.

And the twig will start to come apart, and it'll actually girdle the root off of the tree of the dogwood.

Amanda> But there are different types of dogwood, I mean, different types of anthracnose- There's like a petal one that only occurs when there are, the right environmental conditions.

So that's not always a death sentence.

Is that right?

Glen> Not positive on that one.

Maybe Brandon, you can shed some light on that Dr.

Huber> For anthracnose?

Glen> Anthracnose on the dogwood on the different types of dogwood.

Amanda> Well, you can always send it in.

Glen> Or we can always, your right and send it to the Plant and Pest Diagnostic Clinic.

Amanda> Okay.

All right.

It was fun when Jane Jabbour came to see us, and, she and her partner started a native plant nursery.

Isn't that fun?

And so she wrote a really fun little book because it's got characters in it who have, peculiar names that describes their personality.

I'm happy to be talking to Jane Jabbour today.

And she has a book she's written.

How exciting.

A book writer, yeah.

Jane> My first.

Amanda> Yeah.

And, this is "Deep South Native Plants for the Home Garden."

And I think this is great fun because you didn't just say, "duh, duh, duh" this chapter's about so-and-so and "da, da, da, da" about this plant.

You created this whole world of people on a bus trip.

Jane> Yes, that was sort of the frame for this book.

And my thinking was that it would give a little lightness and levity to a subject that the scientists have already covered the subject pretty well.

And they've written these wonderful big books that deal with thousands of species.

I wanted something that would be more like a, pocket handbook to a small selection.

And so I created this story of a bus going on a trip through the south.

Amanda> The bus driver's Mr.

Zoombyski, Zoombyski.

Jane> Yeah.

He "zooms by."

and, I'm the, the tour guide.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

Jane> So that was the, the inspiration for- Amanda> And you've got Mrs.

Wonderingall Mr.

Grousington and Mr.

Lumpski.

So the men seem to be somewhat grumpy on this trip, which is kind of funny, but anyway.

It's great fun and they do go through the Deep South.

And so, you know, we'll go to one state and talk about two things there.

Although, as you point out, these plants grow all over, they're not just distributed in these states that we talk about.

<Correct> Amanda> It just makes it more fun.

It's an easy, fun read.

Jane> It's an easy read.

Amanda> But, what's you know, I think... one of the things that we all want to do now is create habitat and it all flows together, I believe.

Jane> Yes.

My thinking, actually my thinking for the, the choice of, of selections here was to introduce people who might be new to the South.

And who might not know anything.

And frequently our local nurseries would say "people will come in and they're from New Jersey or they're from Detroit, and they come in and say, 'I'm ready to go with gardening in the South, where do I begin?'"

And what a good idea to point them towards native plants, you know?

Amanda> So critical for the continuation of life.

Jane> Exactly.

Amanda> We could talk about a few of them that you just, that are outstanding to plant and, and you could, you could extrapolate on them.

How about that?

Jane> Okay.

Amanda> Well, cone flowers.

Jane> Cone flowers are... first of all, we'll say they're pretty.

Amanda> That helps.

Jane> People, people like color in their gardens.

Sad to say, many people want a flower that'll give them color 12 months of the year.

And of course, we know that's not the case.

You need to kind of put in a variety to get a succession of color.

But the cone flowers do come in a number of colors.

And they add quite a bit of pop, but they're really significant sources of pollen and nectar for our pollinators.

And as you know, that's become a critical theme these days.

Amanda> It has.

Jane> We've got to have the pollinators because it's no longer a single flower in isolation.

It's a flower as part of this web of life.

Amanda> And then I think it was Mr.

Grousington who said, you were talking about Joe-Pye weed.

He said, "I don't want any weeds in my yard."

So, Joe-Pye weed is just a wonderful plant.

Let's talk- Jane> It is such a great plant with such an unfortunate name.

But yes, it's got a lot going for it.

It's a fabulous pollinator.

You can go out, I've been out on, in my backyard to look at the Joe-Pye weed when it's in full bloom, and you will see if you hold still and watch you will see maybe six different species of pollinators.

So it's a winner for the pollinators.

But it has other virtues as well.

Amanda> Well, it's easy to grow.

You talked about seeing some on a railroad track.

<Yeah> I mean, you know, crazy just, it's a weed.

<Easy> I mean, it's nice to have something that's easy to grow.

Jane> It prefers neglect.

[laughter] It really wants to be neglected.

The other thing, and, I mentioned this to you earlier, that it has hollow stem.

Amanda> Yes.

And so don't be too tidy.

What's the importance of hollow stems?

Jane> Right.

We tend to want to go out there and chop down when things are- Amanda> Over.

Jane> Over and the season's changing.

Amanda> Tidying up for winter.

Jane> Yeah.

Okay.

Now what we've learned is there's a lot going on with those hollow tubes that are left over.

That's where overwintering is taking place for our native bee population.

Amanda> Isn't that wonderful?

Jane> It's great.

So here was my experience.

I went to a lecture on bees.

Amanda> Okay.

Jane> And there were native bees that were overwintering in these hollow stems.

And the, the PowerPoint showed me what was going on inside.

And there's one after another, after another, after another chamber.

And I thought, that sounds interesting.

I'm going to go out in my backyard- Amanda> Oh and look!

Jane> And I'm going to be a little home scientist, and I'm going to cut some and look and see what's going on.

And by goodness, you just couldn't believe it.

Clear as a bell, there were those chambers.

<Aww> And that was because I had left some Joe-Pye stalks.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

People don't think of, you know, ferns as being important in the ecological balance.

But, we do have a good many native ferns that do provide overwintering sites and things like that.

And the Christmas fern is the one I like so much, because if you look at one of the individual fronds, it looks like Santa Claus is in the back and the sleigh is out front.

But, but anyway.

And it just grows everywhere so easily.

Jane> It's another winner.

And good for putting in a shady area.

A lot of people are concerned about, what do I plant under my trees?

You know, what will grow in the shade?

Ferns are a good bet.

They do well and they're very important, as you mentioned, as a source of inter- overwintering for the insects.

Amanda> Yeah.

Everybody loves bearded iris.

But we've got a couple of native iris and one is very small and very dear.

Jane> Yes, I love that plant.

It's dwarf crested iris, and Iris cristata is its Latin name.

And it grows, I'm going to say, even though the books say, put it in a damp environment and give it a lot of water.

I've seen it growing well in shade.

And it comes back year after year.

We've had some in, underneath a pine tree for many years.

Amanda> So you could mix that in with some of the ferns if you wanted to lightly plant under trees.

Jane> You could.

You want to leave a lot of the ground there for the caterpillars to fall- Jane> You could.

<You could.> There is a couple of other low growing, there's Indian pinks, <Yes> which is, has a bloom.

People want that color.

Amanda> So red.

Jane> Whoo, bright red.

And it doesn't get too tall maybe like that.

And that's a nice one.

And it does very well in shade.

Amanda> Gosh, isn't that fun?

The red bee balm has a funny story associated with it.

It was used to make tea.

Jane> Yes.

You know, everyone knows about the Boston Tea Party Amanda> Oh yeah, throwing all the tea overboard.

Jane> Throw the tea overboard because it came from the Brits.

The big bad Brits.

Amanda> You need something to drink in the morning.

Jane> Got to have your something in the morning.

And, the Native Americans taught the Colonists about this plant, bee balm as a good tea substitute.

And that's what they used.

It was a way of sort of registering your protest against the British is to drink this bee balm tea.

Amanda> I haven't tried it.

Maybe a little, spoonful of sugar may... [laughter] Jane> Yeah, I think that's probably a good idea.

Amanda> Yeah.

I'm not familiar with the smooth oxeye, but you said it's one I need to become familiar with.

Jane> Yes, smooth oxeye has a bunch of other common names, so if you wanted to look it up, you might look under smooth oxeye or, sun-facing sunflower.

But it's a long bloom.

It's great virtue is that it starts and it keeps going.

Amanda> You said maybe ten weeks.

Which is stunning.

Jane> Yeah, I think eight to ten weeks.

That's my estimate.

I wasn't out there with a calendar.

It just went on and on.

Amanda> And this one you can cut I like to bring flowers in the house.

And you said this one's a great cut flower.

Jane> Yeah, great for cut flowers.

Great for the birds, the pollinators.

And it's really colorful.

And it lasts!

Amanda> There you go.

Isn't that fun?

Jane> Yes.

Amanda> And then, a woody plant that I was... I mean, I've known it, I've seen it in the wild.

The viburnum, the Walter's viburnum.

And the... the straight species is kind of rangy and blah, blah, blah.

But you said there's one that you've been growing, a cultivar.

And tell me about that one.

Jane> We're talking about a plant called Walter's viburnum.

Amanda> Thank you.

Jane> And the species is called Mrs.

Schiller's Delight.

<Okay> The great virtues of this plant are that it is... evergreen.

Everybody wants an evergreen.

It has blooms.

So it's better than boxwood in a way, because it's covered with white blooms.

Amanda> Which is going to attract the pollinators.

Jane> Exactly.

And it is followed by lovely berries.

<Oh> Hello, birds!

So- Amanda> Which somebody is going to enjoy.

Yeah.

Jane> So I think, oh did I mention it smells good.

The flowers smell wonderful.

Amanda> Gosh.

Jane> I mean here's a plant you can't- It's just fabulous.

Amanda> And boxwoods have so, so many problems and so many people are losing all theirs.

So I just say, and this one you said doesn't get too big.

Jane> Not too big.

You can trim it up like a boxwood.

Amanda> Yeah, if you want to.

Jane> Yeah.

Or let it go.

Amanda> Or let it go.

Yeah.

And then, the black-eyed Susan.

Who doesn't like black-eyed Susans?

Jane> Right?

It's a great favorite.

Good for cut flowers, but also one where it's fine to leave it behind and let the birds have some of those seeds.

Amanda> And again, hollow stems.

Jane> Right.

Hollow stems.

Amanda> The monarchs are, talk about under... distress and distressing situation.

And they feed on, their larval, larvae only feed on milkweed.

Jane> Correct.

Amanda> But I think that some milkweeds are more attractive to their larvae than other.

What's been your experience?

Jane> Well, you know, that's probably true.

All I know is that most of the official advice is to plant something called Asclepias tuberosa.

It has a sort of a bright orange bloom.

The blooms are really pretty.

But I put it in and it came back for one year.

Maybe a little bit less the second year, and then it disappeared.

So, it has not done very well for me.

Other people, may have success, but you said you did pretty well with... Amanda> Swamp milkweed.

Jane> With the swamp milkweed.

Amanda> My friend Laura Lee Rose grows, and sent me some starts of... And it just was tiny at first.

But then last year it got huge and the year before, and it just covered.

I mean, I was worried about the poor little caterpillars because they ate it all up.

And, but it makes seeds and I've got more coming up.

So I just think it's a great one.

And again, I leave the stems up, you know, I don't cut it all the way back because somebody is going to make, make use of those.

Jane> Right.

Amanda> But it's, it's pretty good.

Jane> You know, you mentioned something that reminds me, sometimes caterpillars will demolish the plant.

And you say, "my goodness!"

<I know.> Wait two or three days and watch carefully and you may well see new growth popping back up.

Amanda> The passion vine.

Jane> The passion vine does that Amanda> They just eat... Jane> It comes right on back- Amanda> -With vigor.

Jane> And you're like well, that worked pretty well.

Nature knows what it's doing.

Amanda> You and your partner, Lynn Meffert, got so excited after reading Doug Tallamy that y'all decided to start a native plant nursery.

Maybe the first one in the state.

Jane> Yes.

I don't know about the state, but we were certainly early in Charleston.

There was a Native Plant Society, small, a sort of beginning group, which we joined.

And then we were so enthusiastic about natives, we decided to propagate them and use our own backyard as a place to, you know, offer plants for people who are interested.

So, our friends in the Native Plant Society came and the word spread, and before we knew it, native plants were getting to be a thing.

Amanda> I know, people were just walking, knocking on your door constantly, just making their way to the backyard.

<Right> And you said that one of the things is when people come, they get so excited because this is so pretty, and this is so pretty, and this is so pretty, but if you have a small yard and you can't have masses, it's so important, group things.

Because that helps the animals find them.

If there's just a single thing- Jane> Right.

One of the things I tried to point out in the book is that the research, the science really supports the idea of diversity.

So you want several species if possible, but also you have to balance that with the fact that one plant is not going to have much of an impact.

So a grouping of plants and another plant in groups, those kinds of arrangements are what really work the best.

Amanda> Yeah, they do.

And, so I wanted to end with something that you wrote, and I will let you read it.

Jane> "Finally, I have approached the subject with a smile in hopes that you share my vision that each of us, in doing good can feel gratified and empowered.

Knowing that our personal landscapes can be tools for expressing our deep affection for the Earth.

We can make conscious, positive garden choices.

We can each be individual strands in the amazing woven tapestry of all life."

♪ Amanda> Thanks to everybody for coming up.

Especially, that's a long drive for you, we really appreciate it.

But even if you just came from around the corner, I'm so happy that everybody was here.

Anyway, and... we also are so excited to have, a Girl Scout troop.

Troop 2243.

And it's pajama day for them, so that's why they're all dressed in their pajamas.

And, they were just wonderful audience to have.

And we thank y'all, thank y'all.

I just, I do enjoy Girl Scout cookies.

And it's important for them, the Girl Scout cookies because they have things that they need to do.

Anyway.

So right now we will say good night and please come back next week.

Night night.

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