
“The Calling:” A Look Inside the Emotional Journey of Medical School
Clip: 3/24/2025 | 18m 21sVideo has Closed Captions
Asako Gladsjo and Dr. Le’Shauna Phinazee join the show.
From America's withdrawal from the WHO to the appointment of vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of HHS, the public health sector has seen radical change since Trump's return to the Oval Office. The importance of healthcare is underscored in a new documentary, "The Calling: A Medical School Journey." Filmmaker Asako Gladsjo and Dr. Le’Shauna Phinazee join the show to discuss.

“The Calling:” A Look Inside the Emotional Journey of Medical School
Clip: 3/24/2025 | 18m 21sVideo has Closed Captions
From America's withdrawal from the WHO to the appointment of vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of HHS, the public health sector has seen radical change since Trump's return to the Oval Office. The importance of healthcare is underscored in a new documentary, "The Calling: A Medical School Journey." Filmmaker Asako Gladsjo and Dr. Le’Shauna Phinazee join the show to discuss.
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IT IS UNDERSCORED IN A NEWTHE CALLING.
IT FOLLOWS THE ACADEMIC AND PERSONAL STORIES AT ALBERT EINSTEIN COLLEGE OF MEDICINE IN NEW YORK .
HERE'S A CLIP FROM THE TRAILER.
>> GROWING UP HERE IN THE BRONX, I PASSED BY ALL THE TIME.
AS I GOT OLDER I REALIZED THE MAGNITUDE, THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY COOL IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
>> WHEN I WAS 14 AND I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO BE A DOCTOR.
EVERY EXAM WE TAKE, EVERY ROTATION YOU GET THROUGH, YOU KNOW YOU ARE ONE STEP CLOSER TO THE DREAM.
>> I BASICALLY GROW UP IN MY PARENTS CLINIC IN SYRIA.
THEY WERE MY FIRST INSPIRATION TO BECOMING A DOCTOR.
>> FIRST FEW YEARS ALL ABOUT BOOK LEARNING AND LECTURES AND THE THIRD YEARS ABOUT ROTATIONS, SEEING PATIENTS.
IT'S A WHOLE NEW WAY OF THINKING AND A WHOLE NEW LANGUAGE.
>> THE FILMMAKER WHO FEATURES IN THE DOCUMENTARY JOINED HARI SREENIVASAN TO DISCUSS WHAT IT TAKES TO BECOME A PHYSICIAN AND ONE OF AMERICA'S MOST UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
OSAKO, WHY THIS FILM?
YOU FOLLOW A GROUP OF STUDENTS THROUGH EINSTEIN COLLEGE AND THEIR TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OVER A WHOLE YEAR.
WHAT DREW YOU TO THIS?
>> IT WAS SOMETHING THAT ESPECIALLY AFTER THE PANDEMIC I WAS, I LIVE IN HARLEM RIGHT NEXT TO THE BRONX AND I SAW HOW MUCH MEDICAL INEQUITY WAS AT THE SAME TIME THAT EVERYONE WAS COMING OUT EVERY NIGHT TO BANG THEIR POTS AND PANS.
I THOUGHT, WHO IS BECOMING DOCTORS TODAY?
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING TO ME IS THAT I FELT LIKE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS AND WHY THERE WAS SO MUCH INEQUITY WAS BECAUSE OF DOCTORS COMING FROM, MOSTLY COMING FROM VERY PRIVILEGED BACKGROUNDS SO IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME TO FOCUS ON STUDENTS WHO CAME FROM A WIDE RANGE OF BACKGROUNDS AND SEE HOW IT AFFECTED THEM TO LEARN MEDICINE IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THE BRONX WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST UNDERSERVED IN AMERICA.
>> LESHAUNA, YOUR JOURNEYS IN THE FILM AND YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW STUDENTS THAT ARE KIND OF, PROFILED.
YOU GREW UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN HARLEM AND THE BRONX AND YOU REALLY TAKE US ON A WALKING TOUR OF SOME MORE OF THE PAINFUL PARTS OF YOUR LIFE.
WHEN DID YOU THINK THAT YOU WANTED TO BE A:?
>> I WANTED TO BE A DOCTOR WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD.
IT WAS THIS KID IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, MY LITTLE BROTHER WAS 4 AT THE TIME ABOUT THE SAME AGE AS MY OLDER BROTHER WHO HAD A CONGENITAL HEART DEFECT AND MY MOTHER WOULD GO VISIT HIM AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE SICK KIDS AT THE TIME AND IT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME.
I SAID I NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IN MY NAOVE 14-YEAR- OLD WAY AND IT JUST SENT ME ON THIS PATH TO WANTING TO BE A DOCTOR AND THAT KIND OF JUST IGNITED THAT.
HE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP PASSING BECAUSE OF HIS DISEASE BUT I THINK AT THE TIME IT WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO AND WANTED TO HELP.
>> ASAKO MENTIONED THIS, ABOUT WHO IS BECOMING DOCTORS.
I WONDER, WHEN YOU ARE IN A MEDICAL SCHOOL CLASS, HOW CONSCIOUS OF YOU, ABOUT WHO YOUR PEERS ARE, WHAT THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCE IS, AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BRING TO THAT EXAMINATION ROOM?
>> VERY UNDERREPRESENTED IN MEDICINE BEING A BLACK PERSON AND BEING A WOMAN IS VERY UNDERREPRESENTED.
I THINK IN MY CLASS OF WHICH IS BETTER THAN MOST IN THE COUNTRY AT BEING AT EINSTEIN I WAS EVEN SHOCKED.
I THOUGHT GOING TO THE BRONX IT WOULD BE MORE DIVERSE BECAUSE IT'S LOCAL.
NEW YORK CITY IS A VERY DIVERSE CITY BUT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY APPLY TO MEDICAL SCHOOLS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SO WE WERE STILL VERY MUCH THE MINORITY BUT I THINK WE DID REFLECT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF PEOPLE OF COLOR IN MED SCHOOL.
SO IT WASN'T A SHOCK TO ME.
ALSO DID NOT-- WENT TO A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE COLLEGE AS WELL SO I WAS USED TO BEING THE ONLY PERSON REPRESENTING MY PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AND EVEN THAT COMES WITH ITS OWN BURDEN BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I A ONE PERSON AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE THAT LOOKS LIKE ME OR CLOSE TO ME SO I FELT WHEN DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS HAPPENED THEY LOOK TO ME IN A ROOM AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
I CAN SPEAK ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE, BUT I DON'T.
>> ASAKO, ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATION OF MEDICAL COLLEGES THERE IS AN 11.6% DROP IN BLACK MATRICULATE, AND IT-- WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT EXPLAIN THAT?
>> I THINK WE ALL CAN SEE IN THE NEWS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERTED ATTACK ON AFFIRMATIVE- ACTION AND EDUCATIONAL EQUITY PRETTY MUCH EVER SINCE THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND THE VERY FIRST ATTEMPT TO HAVE AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION FOR MEDICAL AND IN THAT CASE DENTAL SCHOOL WAS ALL THE WAY BACK IN 1978.
SO THIS IS NOT NEW BUT IT IS VERY DEPRESSING BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY STUDIES THAT HAVE SHOWN WHEN YOU HAVE DOCTORS FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, THEY ENDED UP GIVING BETTER CARE FROM PEOPLE FROM A WIDER RANGE OF BACKGROUNDS, AS WELL.
I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A FILM WHERE WE JUST MADE ARGUMENTS ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT THE ANTI-DEI MOVEMENT THAT HAS TAKEN OVER THE COUNTRY NOW IS GOING TO MAKE THAT PROBLEM WORSE.
BUT I FELT LIKE, LET'S JUST SEE THE STUDENTS.
IF YOU FOLLOW STUDENTS AND YOU SEE THEIR WORK AND YOU SEE THEIR DEDICATION AND THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE, YOU WILL NOT DOUBT THAT ALL OF THESE STUDENTS ARE JUST AS QUALIFIED AS ANYONE ELSE.
I THINK THAT WAS THE HOPE WITH MAKING THIS FILM, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS THIS MISCONCEPTION THAT DEI BRINGS AN UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATES AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
DEI WAS MADE TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD A LITTLE BIT, TO OPEN THE DOORS A LITTLE BIT TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO XL IN THE FIELD BUT WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE PRIVILEGES, THE PRIVATE TUTORS, THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, PARENTS WHO ARE DOCTORS ALREADY, ALL OF THESE ADVANTAGES THAT MAKE IT SO THAT MOST MEDICAL SCHOOLS ARE FULL OF STUDENTS FROM WHITE PRIVILEGED BACKGROUNDS WHO HAVE, MANY OF THEM HAVE AT LEAST ONE PARENT WHO IS A DOCTOR ALREADY.
>> SHAUNA, THERE IS A SCENE WITH ONE OF THE STUDENTS AND HIS MENTOR IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE AND HE SAYS THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUNG BLACK MEN BECOMING DOCTORS HAS IMPROVED, BUT AN INCREDIBLY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT.
>> WHEN I MEANT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL THERE WERE FIVE BLACK STUDENTS OUT OF A CLASS OF 200.
SO WE HAVE WHAT, TRIPLE?
BUT DON'T FORGET TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WMC NUMBERS, 3% IS THE BLACK MALE POPULATION OF PHYSICIANS IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> AND YOU WERE GOING THROUGH MED SCHOOL, WERE YOU CONSCIOUS OF THAT?
>> YES AND I THINK IT'S REALLY EVIDENT ONCE YOU WALK ON CAMPUS AND YOU START MEETING YOUR PEERS, MY CLASS COMING IN WAS 183 PEOPLE AND OF THAT, 20 WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THAT INCLUDES BLACK AND HISPANIC STUDENTS.
THAT IS THE FRACTION THAT IT WAS AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU KIND OF KNOW THAT IT EXISTS EVEN LIKE THE DOCTORS THAT WE WORK WITH THAT ARE PROFESSORS AND THOSE WE WORKED WITH IN THE HOSPITAL.
NOT MANY OF THEM LOOK LIKE ME OR LOOK LIKE ANYBODY IN MY FAMILY FOR THE MOST PART.
>> TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MADE YOU-- RIGHT NOW I HEAR YOU ARE PURSUING RADIOLOGY RIGHT?
WHY RADIOLOGY?
>> IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I ENCOUNTERED ON MY THIRD YEAR.
RADIOLOGY WAS SOMETHING I FELL IN LOVE WITH.
I WAS A MATH PERSON IN COLLEGE, I MAJORED IN MATH AND JUST LOOKING AT THE IMAGES, I LIKE THE IMAGES, I LIKE THE PATHOLOGY AND I DID A BREAST RADIOLOGY ROTATION THAT WAS PRETTY COOL BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE THINK OF RADIOLOGISTS AND THEY THINK OF THEM BEING IN A DARK ROOM NOT DOING MUCH, NOT REALLY INTERACTING WITH PATIENTS BUT THAT IS REALLY NOT THE CASE.
YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT OF IT.
YOU COULD BE IN A ROOM READING OR PATIENT FACING.
YOU COULD BE DOING PROCEDURES OR JUST THE VARIETY THAT I WANTED IN THE CAREER AND PRIORITIES CHANGE AS I GO OLDER, MOVING THROUGH SPACE IN A WAY THAT FITS MY LIFE AS I MOVE ON.
>> THERE'S A MOMENT IN THE FILM WHERE STUDENTS COMING INTO THEIR FIRST DAY AT THE CADAVER LAB.
>> ANYONE, IF YOU DON'T FEEL WELL, JUST GET OUT OF HERE AND WE WILL COME CHECK ON YOU OKAY?
>> AS A FILMMAKER HOW DO YOU CHOOSE WHICH MOMENTS, WHAT WERE THE THINGS YOU WERE LOOKING FOR?
I'M SURE YOU HAD A LOT OF HOURS OF VIDEO THAT WE DID NOT SEE.
>> YES, THERE WERE DEFINITELY A LOT OF HOURS.
I WOULD SAY JUST SORT OF THE COMPLICATION OF SHOOTING IN A MEDICAL SETTING, THERE'S A LOT OF PERMISSIONS YOU HAVE TO GET.
EVERY TIME YOU SEE A PATIENT WHERE PEOPLE WERE CONTACTED AHEAD OF TIME, THEY HAD TO SIGN HIPPER RELEASES AND APPEARANCE RELEASES, IT WAS QUITE COMPLICATED.
WE HAD A LOT WITH OUR STUDENTS OUTSIDE OF PATIENT SETTINGS BUT IN TERMS OF JUST GETTING TO KNOW THE STUDENTS, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SORT OF SHOW THESE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT.
THE CHALLENGE OF HOW MY COURT-- HOW MUCH WORK THERE IS.
THE REALIZATION THAT NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU ACE YOUR TESTS IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO TALK TO A PATIENT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY BE A GOOD DOCTOR.
AND IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOURSELF ACADEMICALLY YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, DISCOVER THAT YOUR SKILL IS MAKING PEOPLE FEEL AT EASE, ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
>> SHAUNA, YOU AND THE OTHER MAIN CHARACTER HAVE THIS FORK IN A ROAD AND VERY JUSTIFIABLY SO.
SHE WANTS TO STAY IN THE BRONX AND MATCH WITH THE HOSPITAL, AND SHE DOES IN THE BRONX AND YOU ARE LIKE, I'M READY TO SEE THE REST OF THE WORLD, RIGHT?
YOU ARE NOW AT DUKE.
WHAT WAS THE MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR YOU TO KIND OF SPREAD YOUR WINGS?
>> IT WAS DEFINITELY A DECISION THAT WAS NOT TAKEN LIGHTLY.
IT'S SOMETHING I ALWAYS SAW MYSELF AS A DOCTOR IN PRACTICE IN NEW YORK AND HELPING MY COMMUNITY BUT I THINK ONCE MY BROTHER WAS KILLED, LIKE RIGHT BEFORE I STARTED SCHOOL, I FELT LIKE I GAVE NEW YORK ENOUGH OF MY ENERGY AND TIME AND DIDN'T WANT MY KIDS TO GROW UP IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENVIRONMENTS EVEN IF I WAS TO BECOME A DOCTOR AND BE ABLE TO MOVE OUT OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE NEW YORK CITY.
I FELT LIKE IT IS STILL SO ACCESSIBLE IN HISTORY IS SO ACCESSIBLE AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO KIND OF MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT SPACE IN MY LIFE AND I KIND OF LANDED AT NORTH CAROLINA, MOVING FAR ENOUGH SOUTH WHERE THE WEATHER IS NICER AND STILL CLOSE ENOUGH THAT IT'S A BIT LIGHTER BACK TO WHERE MOST OF MY FAMILY LIVES.
I GAVE NEW YORK A LOT OF MY TIME AND EMOTION AND ENERGY AND I THINK, I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO HAVE TO EVEN EXPERIENCE IT OR EVEN KNOW OF IT FOR THE MOST PART.
>> NOT TO MENTION IT'S A VERY GOOD PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE IN.
>> I THINK IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE A DOCTOR AND I THINK IT'S EVEN MORE OF A PRIVILEGE TO BE A BLACK DOCTOR.
A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM MY BACKGROUND DON'T SEE IT AS AN OPTION AND PROBABLY DON'T SEE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE THEM IN THOSE SPACES AND IT CAN BE VERY DAUNTING FOR THEM AND I THINK I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE HAVING PEOPLE FIND A WAY TO SUCCEED.
>> YOU KIND OF WE'VE THESE PERSONAL NARRATIVES INTO YOUR STORY A LITTLE BIT.
WHY DID YOU FEEL THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US TO GET TO KNOW THE CHARACTER'S BACK STORIES AND GET TO KNOW THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES?
WE HAVE MULTIPLE SCENES OF THAT.
>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL ALIENATED FROM THE MEDICAL SYSTEM FOR A LOT OF REASONS AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH INSURANCE AND THE WAY THAT WHEN SOMEONE-- SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAPPENS TO A FAMILY MEMBER, ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS WAS HIT BY A CAR AND THE FIRST WAY I KNEW ABOUT IT WAS THE HOSPITAL CALLED ASKING FOR INSURANCE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT YOU BLAME THE DOCTORS AS A PATIENT.
YOU THINK THE DOCTOR IS JUST THERE TO MAKE MONEY, THAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU, THAT THEY ARE WASTING YOUR TIME AND JUST THE HOOPS THAT YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH TO GET THINGS COVERED ON ALL OF THAT.
IT'S EASY TO NOT SEE THAT THE DOCTORS COME TO THIS PROFESSION, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY AN INCREDIBLE DEVOTION TO CARING FOR OTHERS THAT MOTIVATES THEM AND ONE OF THE WAYS I FELT LIKE YOU REALLY COULD FEEL IT WAS WHEN YOU SAW THEM OUTSIDE OF CLASS AND OUTSIDE OF THE MEDICAL SETTINGS.
THIS IS A PERSON THAT THEIR WHOLE LIFE HAS BROUGHT THEM TO THIS POINT THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO MAKE THE SACRIFICES TO DO THIS INCREDIBLY HARD WORK .
IT'S NOT LIKE DOING OTHER KINDS OF JOBS.
IT IS A JOB WHERE YOU ARE COMMITTING YOURSELF.
THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED THE CALLING.
FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT DOCTORS WHO ARE IN THE LARGE PATIENT COMMUNITY IT WAS A WAY TO UNDERSTAND WHO ARE THE DOCTORS THAT ARE CARING FOR US, AND WHY IT MATTERS.
THEY CAN COME FROM ALL KINDS OF BACKGROUNDS AND BE, REALLY A GREAT DOCTOR.
>> WHAT HAS RECEPTION BEEN LIKE SINCE THE FILM HAS BEEN OUT?
>> I HAVE BEEN SURPRISED AT HOW MOVED PEOPLE ARE.
DOCTORS ARE THRILLED BY IT.
INTERESTINGLY I JUST CAME BACK YESTERDAY FROM A FILM FESTIVAL IN CUBA WHERE THERE WERE CUBAN MEDICAL STUDENTS AND FACULTY MEMBER FROM THE MEDICAL SCHOOL.
THEY WERE THRILLED AND LOVED SEEING IT BECAUSE THEY HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE WAY THEIR MEDICAL SYSTEM WORKS.
THEY HAVE SINGLE-PAYER AND THEY ARE UNDER RESOURCED BUT MEDICAL EDUCATION IS FREE AND THEY ARE KNOWN TO HAVE VERY GOOD DOCTORS.
SO IT IS FASCINATING FOR THEM TO SEE SOMETHING THEY KIND OF TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE A DOCTOR YOU CAN GO FOR FREE TO SEE THE HOOPS THAT THE STUDENTS WERE JUMPING THROUGH BECAUSE THEY WERE SO COMMITTED TO CARING FOR PATIENTS AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY WERE REALLY MOVED BY.
>> IT COMES AS A POST SCRIPT IN THE FILM BUT REALLY, JUST AFTER YOU GRADUATE IS THIS UNBELIEVABLE PHILANTHROPIC GIFT .
THE TUITION WILL NOW BE FREE AT EINSTEIN FOR EVERY MEDICAL STUDENT COMING IN.
YOU DID NOT BENEFIT FROM THAT.
WAS THE CHANGE THAT YOU SEE POSSIBLE?
>> I DO HOPE THAT THE CHANGE THAT ALLOWS FOR STUDENTS LIKE ME TO NOW BE ABLE TO WORRY ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF MEDICAL SCHOOL AND EINSTEIN HAS A GREAT MISSION FOR MEDICAL SCHOOL AND I THINK THAT MISSION ALLOWED ME AS A STUDENT TO GET ACCEPTED INTO EINSTEIN AND WOULD LOVE FOR THAT MISSION TO KEEP THEM TRUE TO THAT VALUE OF HELPING A DIVERSE MEDICAL SYSTEM.
WE ARE IN THE TIMES WHERE LIKE ASAKO WAS SAYING, THAT DEI IS UNDER ATTACK AND PEOPLE'S MISSION STATEMENTS ARE CHANGING A LITTLE BIT TO MAINTAIN FEDERAL FUNDING BUT I HOPE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STILL ALLOWED THEM TO BE TRUE TO THEIR CHARACTER AND THEIR MISSION AND ADMIT STUDENTS LIKE ME WHO WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CHANCE OTHERWISE TO GET INTO MEDICAL SCHOOLS.
>> ASAKO WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION ON THE DAY THESE STUDENTS MATCH AND YOU CAPTURED THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR CLASS AND THE GROUP OF STUDENTS WHO ARE FOLLOWING SO WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> IT WAS EXCITING AND ALSO FOR MY CORE CREW WHO HAD BEEN BOTHERING THESE STUDENTS FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR, WE WERE JUST AS EMOTIONAL.
WE WERE CRYING, WE SAW EACH OTHER LIKE, THE ASSOCIATE PRODUCER, THE CAMERA MAN.
THERE WERE TEARS EVERYWHERE AND BLOWING THEIR NOSES BECAUSE WE WERE SO EXCITED.
I WILL SAY WHEN I CAST THE TWO MAIN STUDENTS THAT WE FOLLOWED THAT WERE PART OF THE FILM, I MET THEM WHEN THEY WERE IN THEIR THIRD YEAR AND WE SORT OF IMAGINED FOLLOWING THEM OVER THIS YEAR.
I COULD NEVER HAVE PREDICTED THAT THEY WOULD BOTH GET THEIR TOP CHOICE RESIDENCY BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE DOES.
THE FACT THAT THEY GET THE ONES THEY WANTED THE MOST AND THAT THEY TOLD ME REPEATEDLY THEY WANTED THE MOST WAS KIND OF AMAZING.
>> IT WAS REALLY A WONDERFUL CRESCENDO TO THE FILM JUST EMOTIONALLY AS WELL AS AS A NARRATIVE ARC SO CONGRATULATIONS.
>> FILMMAKER ASAKO GLADSJO AND DOCTOR SHAUNA PHINAZEE.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU