-This is your Grandparents?

-Yeah, so this is from my mom's side of the family.

We can see a harvest, or what we call a pu'u pa'akai.

-So this little mound of salt.

-Yeah, that's not little.

-Yeah.

[ Laughs ] This would be a normal site here.

But, you know, with all of these impacts that we're experiencing and then the flooding happening for our family, six years in a row, we've gone from the 55-gallon-bucket harvest to zero.

It's very alarming.

That's what keeps me trying to find solutions.

Even around the talks about climate change and interacting with climate scientists, it's like, "What kind of solutions?

What can we do," you know?

I'm also a specialist at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

Part of my research is in climate change and how it has an impact on traditional and customary practices.

For one, right now, we're using our Kaulana Mahina methodology to at least document and see what these correlations are, and can we come up with some solutions.

-Sorry, I'm still stuck on six years.

-Six years of zero production.

-Phew!

-It's such an important part not just for people here on Kaua'i.

I mean, salt making reaches many practitioners in all different ways.

And I think, you know, whether you're cooking or you're a la'au lapa'au practitioner making medicine or blessing a home, I mean, everyone uses salt... -Pa'akai, right.

-...pa'akai from Hanapepe.

-Yeah.

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